[TMG] Is It Too Late?

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I just come back from giving thesis defending exam as a chairman.
Ofcause, I let student to pass.
I told her at the end that after passing exam her live is just begun.


On Sun, 28 Sep 2008, Nawanan Theera-Ampornpunt wrote:

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I think all TMGer agree and support you.
We should respect to each others.

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The membership reduction is not just start but it was happen since several 
years ago. IMO: It should be prouded that TMG can live to this long.

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Unfortunately that you just come in at war time.
It was a war of mis-understanding.
I hope that after maha rethinking he will apologize to Dr. Thanit and keep 
on the old long good relationship.

I will not make WRONG action as bad gov want in retret both side.
Because in this case it was obviously one is right and one is wrong.

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The objective of TMG is still the same.
Only me violate it in not using TH language.

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We do not have target on TH politics problems.
BUT it was the biggest problem affected to all of us.
So, to look for solution should be a duty for all TH people.

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It was reduced by nature and not concern this war at all.
The same happen to rice and para-rubber cost that ra-ta-bal sad-na-rok 
claim to be its good job.

I refuse my above words are rude or "musa vata"
It was proper words to describe bad gov correctly.

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IMO: not too late. And no problem exist among TMG.
If maha really stop then this topic will stop since long time ago.

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IMO: TMG is fine. What it was happen few days ago just a simple cold from 
a heavy rain.

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I am sure everyone agree with you that we should discuss in respective 
manner. After maha truely stop for a while the cold symptom should be 
cured.

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It was simply your bad luck in coming in at heavy rain periods so you get 
a simple cold w/o virus. Please don't worry.

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Sure, I did.

My son was crying during this heavy rain too.
BUT he go to normal now after I wash the plate for him and fixing "rao tak 
pha" for my wife. He is now watching good movie in silent manner and did 
not change to bad cartoon chanell because it was a movie story of students 
fighing to bad society in USA and finally teacher and students won the 
war. I beleive he got my immunity before 3 years old in capable of that 
patient. While most students today lack off that immunity and cause 
problems to our society today.

I wish you did contain high immunity to keep on TMG for a while and you 
will realize that TMG is the best community to live.

I suggest you to visit rajadumnern (pantip) to realize what is going on in 
TH community today for comparison.

Regards,
zxc555