solution for our country is stopping off-topic (Re: [TMG] Re: Disrespecful

[supat at supat.eu.org]

My analysis found that problem in TH at this moment happen because bad gov 
use off-topic methods to let TH people that lack off analysis ability 
become its slave and its victim.

When gov did s/t wrong they always off-topic to be others person fault.

For example: PAD go to air port. Gov shut down airport by itself but 
accuse that PAD destroy TH 0.14 million million baht which is simply a 
lie. but most TH persons cannot see that and think that gov was right 
while PAD was wrong.

They forget the topic is "gov must go out because it was illegal gov"
BUT most TH persons forget the original topic.

The same happen here.
Original topic is scientific analysis to find out the truth.
BUT it was off-topic to be "buffalo" is rude word or not.
That is minor error that already ended and should not be off-topic for so 
long.

Regards,
zxc555

On Mon, 1 Dec 2008, supat at supat.eu.org wrote:

>
> Because you said you are ROM at this moment.
> I hope you already read my reply earlier that explain every thing and did 
> already apologized on his mis-understanding.
>
> Let me give more words.
>
> IMO: What he did is simply out off topic on a small hole of probability.
> My opponent at prachatai used word "á¶" that I don't know the meaning even I 
> am Thais but he "à©ÅÂ" it means µÐầ in thai. For me it was out off topic 
> and out off story. So I ignore to response more on that event.
>
> If he want to make benefit argument to our nation he should discuss 
> creatively on analysing to find out the truth.
>
> The truth is solution for every thing.
> Off-topic ("á¶" or µÐầ) is not solution at all.
> And I am proud that a good monk this morning analysis got identical result to 
> me. This is statistical scientific proof because he and I are independent 
> observation but get identical surprizingly results that is unbeleivable but 
> the truth.
>
> In my earlier using word buffalo I never means him.
> I don't know why he trouble with that respectful words and I did accept that 
> it was my fault already that differ from normal people about wordings. In my 
> honest "buffalo" is a positive good words.
> I just know from Dr. Thanit that it is not and respect to his decission.
>
> I think my different is a key solution why I succeed in making SSS/OLPC 
> computer and was attacked badly from farang. While so far farang still cannot 
> make the same I did 2 yeas ago.
>
> Regards,
> zxc555
>
> On Mon, 1 Dec 2008, Angkut Roongsaengjan wrote:
>
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> 2008/11/30 Nawanan Theera-Ampornpunt <nawanan.rama at gmail.com>
>
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>> Thanit Hasadsri wrote:
>> > Disrespecful ¤Ó¹Õé á»Åä´éËÅÒÂÍÂèÒ§
>> > ¤Ø³ËÁ͹Ãó á»ÅËÃ×ÍËÁÒ¶֧ ÇèÒÍÂèÒ§äÃ
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>> >
>> >
>> > --- On Sat, 11/29/08, Nawanan Theera-Ampornpunt <nawanan.rama at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> From: Nawanan Theera-Ampornpunt <nawanan.rama at gmail.com>
>> >> Subject: Re: [TMG] anon. person just said a wonderful word that no one
>> said it b 4
>> >> To: "Thai Mailing Group" <thai-l at thai-l.net>
>> >> Date: Saturday, November 29, 2008, 12:44 AM
>> >> ¼Á¤Ô´ÇèÒ¼Áà¤Âàµ×͹äÇéã¹
>> >> ¡Á·. ªÑ´à¨¹áÅéǹФÃѺ
>> >> ÇèÒ ÍÂèҺѧÍÒ¨
>> >> ÂéÓ ÍÂèҺѧÍÒ¨
>> >> ãªé¤Ó¾Ù´·Õè disrespectful
>> >> áÅмÁàª×èÍÇèÒ¤ÓÇèÒ
>> >> buffalo à¢éÒ¢èÒ¹Õé¤ÃѺ
>> >>
>> >> ÃÐÇѧ¤Ó¾Ù´Ë¹èͤÃѺ
>> >>
>> >> ´éǤÇÒÁà¤Òþ
>> >>
>> >> ¹Ç¹Ãù
>> 
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